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Tesla FSD not coming under current DCAS regulations
In a recent discussion I had with Mr. Rohan Patel from Tesla, he made clear that FSD is not happening under the current UNECE DCAS regulations. They just don't know how to adapt the FSD software to implement those regulations.
In this video I walk through the entire conversation and what it means for us, outside of North-America, in terms of timeline for when we could finally get our own version to start testing with.
Full DCAS regulations explained: ua-cam.com/video/Lb54Hgl4AbQ/v-deo.html
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Rimac Nevera vs Porsche Taycan Turbo GT
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When Porsche published the lap time for the Taycan Turbo GT, I immediately noticed that it was only 2s slower than the Rimac Nevera, which is a 1914hp hypercar. This is such an amazing achievement from Porsche. We do have to keep in mind that the Nevera was running on a very hot day and tires were struggling for grip from overheating. Whereas the Porsche was definitely running on a colder day. ...
REMATCH: Tesla Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo GT
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The Porsche Taycan Turbo GT is the newest high performance version of the Taycan and has destroyed the Model S Plaid lap record at the Nürburgring. Mind you, the Taycan GT in this clip is a production car, but it has a very specific racing package and the interior stripped out. So, although it is not completely fair to compare both, it is still a mighty impressive feat from Porsche. Tesla might...
BREAKING NEWS: DCAS Regulations approved by WP29 on March 6, 2024
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Finally the DCAS regulations have been approved by the WP29 meeting on March 6, 2024! This means that the doors have been opened by the UNECE to FSD beta to come to Europe and other countries outside of North America after all these years. But does this mean that we will actually see FSD beta this year? Full DCAS explanation: ua-cam.com/video/Lb54Hgl4AbQ/v-deo.html ✅ Tesla referral code: ts.la/...
FSD Beta is finally coming to Europe!
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After 4.5 years of having been heavily restricted in AutoPilot and 2 years after the first DCAS regulations should have been approved, the GRVA has finally approved the DCAS regulation in its first iteration at the end of January 2024. This means that we will finally be able to get FSD beta here in Europe (and the other UNECE countries) in January 2025. Now, there are some really specific detai...
Tesla Plaid Nürburgring first lap - talking myself through the track
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Just an easy first lap of the Nürburgring with some pointers as to where to aim for and where to turn in. This is by no means an expert guide to the track, but rather how I prepared myself for my very first laps of this epic track. Do not attempt any track driving with your Plaid without fitting the ceramic brakes from the track pack. Standard brakes are inadequate for track driving! #Tesla #Pl...
The state of Tesla AutoPilot in Europe in 2023
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With all the fancy and impressive videos coming from the US showcasing what Tesla FSD beta can do already, and with many of you having asked to do an update on the current state of AutoPilot here in Europe, I thought it would be a good time to show you the European counterpart and what we have to deal with on a daily basis. #Tesla #autopilot #testing ✅ Tesla referral code: ts.la/steven1007 ✅ We...
UNECE update: DCAS regulation postponed AGAIN! 😡
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The GRVA had its meeting at the end of September 2023 and once more the documents were not ready in time. They should have been completed in June, but ven with these additional months the GRVA still fails at completing the DCAS regulation that would allow FSD beta in Europe. Right now, we can only hope that they will finish it for the January meeting to be voted upon and maybe we can get it by ...
HEAD 2 HEAD: Tesla Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S lap at Nürburgring
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Some time ago The Tesla Model S Plaid with the Track Package beat the Porsche Taycan Turbo S lap time record for EVs at the Nürburgring. So, let's put them head to head in a comparison video for the full, uninterrupted lap of these 2 family cars. #Tesla #Porsche #Nürburgring Video source: Porsche Taycan Turbo S - Porsche Tesla Model S Plaid - Tesla ✅ Tesla referral code: ts.la/steven1007 ✅ Webs...
Tesla Model S Plaid Sentry Mode compilation
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When we were on holiday in Slovenia this summer, the Model S Plaid got quite some attention when it was parked. So I present to you: the faces of Slovenians checking out the Model S Plaid! ✅ Tesla referral code: ts.la/steven1007 ✅ Webshop: www.silver-lining.be/shop ✅ Join this channel to get access to perks: ua-cam.com/channels/cTqDP26hQVXQ93ahFftmEw.htmljoin ✅ ECAMM LIVE FREE TRIAL www.ecamm.c...
HEAD 2 HEAD: Tesla Model S Plaid vs Rimac Nevera record lap at Nürburgring
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The Rimac Nevera just destroyed the Nürburgring lap record for production EVs. that means it is 20s faster around the track than the Tesla Model S Plaid with the track package. So, let's put them head to head in a comparison video for the full, uninterrupted lap. #Tesla #Rimac #Nürburgring Video source: Rimac Nevera - Rimac Automobili Tesla Model S Plaid - Tesla ✅ Tesla referral code: ts.la/ste...
Tesla Model S Plaid violent high-speed spin-off at Nürburgring!
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While I was very lucky to come out of this unscathed, this was definitely a code brown! Spinning out at over 160km/h was definitely violent and somewhat terrifying. In this video I try to explain what went wrong, based on the footage I reviewed and people I talked to. We can never know for sure all the factors at play, but I have a pretty good idea of what went wrong. I also discuss the afterma...
New lap record: Rimac Nevera vs Tesla Model S Plaid Nürburgring analysis
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The Rimac Nevera set the lap record at the Nürburgring for EV production cars. And it did it by destroying the Tesla Model S Plaid's previous record with 20s! This car is on another level! And to say that the track conditions weren't even optimal. This means that a sub-7 lap should be possible under the right circumstances. In this video I dive into how the Nevera got that difference over the c...
BIG PROBLEM - Tesla Model S Plaid stranded with a flat tire!
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BIG PROBLEM - Tesla Model S Plaid stranded with a flat tire!
Tesla Model S Plaid Track Pack on Nürburgring
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Tesla Model S Plaid Track Pack on Nürburgring
Tesla Model S Plaid - top speed ACHIEVED!
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Tesla Model S Plaid - top speed ACHIEVED!
Model S Plaid witch carbon ceramic brakes - high speed run on the German Autobahn
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Model S Plaid witch carbon ceramic brakes - high speed run on the German Autobahn
Tesla Model S Plaid Track Package - First one in Europe!
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Tesla Model S Plaid Track Package - First one in Europe!
UNECE update on DCAS regulations and FSD Beta for Europe
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UNECE update on DCAS regulations and FSD Beta for Europe
Tesla Model S Plaid has arrived and gets a full matt PPF!
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Tesla Model S Plaid has arrived and gets a full matt PPF!
Big announcement! Starting a new channel!
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Big announcement! Starting a new channel!
Ditching Starlink after a year of testing!
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Ditching Starlink after a year of testing!
Norway by drone 2022
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Norway by drone 2022
2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 5
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2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 5
2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 4
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2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 4
2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 3
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2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 3
2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 2
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2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 2
2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 1
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2022 Tesla family road trip to Norway - part 1
Very steep and winding road near Flekkefjord, Norway
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Very steep and winding road near Flekkefjord, Norway
UNECE appoves hands-off driving up to 130kph and the unconfirmed lane change!
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UNECE appoves hands-off driving up to 130kph and the unconfirmed lane change!

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @ibrahimdogan141
    @ibrahimdogan141 11 годин тому

    Excellent, thanks

  • @sunrisejak2709
    @sunrisejak2709 5 днів тому

    I thought that recommended practice is to drive immediately after reaching 100% to avoid damage by leaving the cells at maximum voltage. Waiting 2-3 hours runs contrary to the deep concern of letting the battery sit at 100% for any length of time. Just by doing this recalibration and cell balancing might it not at the same time reduce full capacity distance?

  • @rustlerboi1052
    @rustlerboi1052 5 днів тому

    Tesla’s (especially model 3’s) are very aerodynamically unstable at speed. The center of pressure is forward of the weight distribution which is naturally unstable. When optimizing a car for low drag, this is what happens. I will not say how I know this about tesla’s specifically, but i’m a vehicle dynamics engineer in the automotive industry.

  • @KoosGoossens
    @KoosGoossens 12 днів тому

    I'm in the process of replacing my 2019 Model 3 with a new Model 3 (perhaps the Performance version), and I live in the Netherlands. What would your bet be? Will FSD arrive within the next five years in the EU? My current Model 3 has FSD, which I bought five years ago. Apparently, I lost that bet, and I would hate to spend the money again and lose again in the next five years....

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 12 днів тому

      Current FSD capabilities within 5 years: sure. True FSD with no one in the car or you in the back seat: unlikely

    • @KoosGoossens
      @KoosGoossens 12 днів тому

      So you expect self driving with you behind the wheel without any of the current restrictions within 5 years? So no more mayor slowdown at a “klaverblad” or auto lane change? Roundabouts? That would be awesome!

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 12 днів тому

      @@KoosGoossens I expect that the L2 Supervised FSD is coming to Europe next year or the year after. This is still with you being fully attentive and fully responsible. That is why I will always refer to autonomous cars as “true FSD”. That’s a whole other ball game

  • @beehappy7797
    @beehappy7797 17 днів тому

    Germany will deny Europe FSD to protect its own car industry. They don't care about reducing traffic accidents in Europe. They are cutting benefits for electric cars because they are losing money. Germany has long been a problem for humanity. They should lose their right to vote in the EU.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 15 днів тому

      Germany is among the leaders to push this DCAS regulation. As well as ADS. Germany already has L4 limited regulation. Stop the conspiracy theories. They are just not true

  • @substance90
    @substance90 21 день тому

    The autopilot is totally retarded on German streets 😢 a complete downgrade from my Skoda Octavia iV. Its ACC was insanely good.

  • @BaldurNorddahl
    @BaldurNorddahl 24 дні тому

    Confirmation of compound movements are allowed. For example you could confirm the complete roundabout movement including the exit before entering the roundabout. Disengagement by too much torque on the steering wheel is just a Tesla issue. Other manufactures have detection by capacitive coupling without this problem. Similarly the car would propose how to navigate an intersection before coming up to it. All you do is confirm the compound movement. It could work just fine. I think Tesla may be a little cry baby here or maybe making excuses. The real problem is probably the test procedures that they have to come up with and then pass.

  • @BaldurNorddahl
    @BaldurNorddahl 24 дні тому

    4:53 I have been reading the document 2024-01/GRVA-18-07r2e.pdf and I disagree with the statement that every manoeuvre has to be driver confirmed. That is nowhere in that document. It is even in your slide right on the screen with the (c) option. Instead different implementations can have different capabilities and one of those capability is the option to have system initiated manoeuvres. Yes including taking turns without confirmation. They do however have the section describing the requirements for this empty (section 5.3.7.2.4 "General requirements for system-initiated manoeuvres"). I interpret this as that they are not yet done specifying the requirements and that you may be right in that such a system could not yet gain approval. But it will come. It is also a bit open ended what a manoeuvre is. I would interpret it as taking actions other than following the straight route. It will still stop at red lights, following the road curves, avoid parked cars and pedestrians and so on. It just wont follow the navigation route or leave the lane to go around an obstruktion. While not following the navigation route seems silly, I am actually ok with getting confirmation before going into the oncoming lane to go around obstructions. The USA version of FSD can sometimes do some crazy things.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 24 дні тому

      There is a clear definition of manoeuvre in the document. And the driver confirmation is mandatory for the current version if DCAS, which is exactly what I’m reporting on. And thecreadon why Tesla won’t bring FSD beta to Europe after all.

    • @BaldurNorddahl
      @BaldurNorddahl 24 дні тому

      @@StevenPeeters There is _no_ mandatory text for confirmation in the text. Give me the section if you believe there is. On the contrary there is text for system initiated manoeuvres and you even put it in the video. "A manoeuvre shall only be initiated if the driver is not detected to be disengaged, and (a) or (b) or (c) is given sufficient notice to react for a system-initiated manoeuvre" This text clearly says that the car can do a system initiated manoeuvre provided it tells the chauffeur about it in advance. Notice there are _zero_ manoeuvres described as requiring driver confirmation or driver initiation. This means they can _all_ be system initiated. We even have text describing the requirements for system initiated manoeuvres, although there appears to be none currently specified: "5.3.7.2.4. General requirements for system-initiated manoeuvres The requirements of this paragraph and its subparagraphs apply to the system capable of performing a system-initiated manoeuvres. 5.3.7.2.4.1. (Reserved)" The definition of manoeuvre in the text is the following: "“Manoeuvre” means a change in the vehicle’s trajectory that leads the vehicle to at least partially leave its original lane or direction of travel whereby possibly leading to interaction with other road users" Which is just what I said.

  • @ductran8128
    @ductran8128 24 дні тому

    Thank you for the great video. One question please, after.slow charge to 100%, do we remove the charger from the port and let’s it test for 3hr. Or, we leave the charger in the port and let’s it rest for 3hr? Thank you so much,

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 24 дні тому

      Doesn’t really matter. Either works afaik

  • @mukesh4984
    @mukesh4984 28 днів тому

    Excellent video

  • @idiocracy9530
    @idiocracy9530 Місяць тому

    They should just make it a downloadable, so EU could load it manually. Then Tesla wouldn't be liable, just like MS isn't liable for piracy. This would force EU, and would provide valuable fsd data.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters Місяць тому

      This isn't about liability. It is no legal for a car to make any decisions or manoeuvres by itself. Liability comes into play as of L3

    • @idiocracy9530
      @idiocracy9530 Місяць тому

      Well, then tesla could just offer it and leave it up to consumers. People are already doing it in EU by jailbreaking teslas. That'd force governments/EU to react quicker.

  • @arjenhoogcarspel4193
    @arjenhoogcarspel4193 Місяць тому

    Have you got any idea what is in the V3 superchargers nowadays? My vehicle (Maxus EV80) will charge at V1, V2 and some V3 superchargers. I can charge at SC Leusden and Hengelo, but Wolvega, Drachten and Bunnik didn't work. Luckily at Drachten and Bunnik there were also some V2 chargers, so I was able to charge.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters Місяць тому

      Same principle of multiple chargers stacked, but higher power and not shared across stalls. Not all superchargers are open to other brands though

    • @arjenhoogcarspel4193
      @arjenhoogcarspel4193 Місяць тому

      @@StevenPeeters Thanks for the quick response. If that would be the case, then it's even stranger. Some V3 work others don't. Of course I only use the SC available to other brands. Otherwise I would be unable to start a session. I thought maybe with the switch to CCS that Tesla made in Europe they started using other brand chargers behind the SC stalls. The new Alpitec HYC-300 that Fastned and Alego install nowadays are giving the exact same problem so I thought maybe I was onto a pattern 🙃

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters Місяць тому

      @@arjenhoogcarspel4193 CCS is CCS. It’s just a communication protocol

    • @arjenhoogcarspel4193
      @arjenhoogcarspel4193 Місяць тому

      ​@@StevenPeeters At least that's what it should be. Unfortunately it clearly isn't. Same goes for not all brands being able to charge at V4 SC. I'll keep digging and let you know when I find something.

  • @DeeSock
    @DeeSock Місяць тому

    I think you will enjoy Whole Mars Catalog videos released yesterday 9 May 2024 making crystal clear how embarrassingly limited a highly-rated driving assistance system from a well-known manufacturer is to Tesla, in USA where their hands are not bound by DCAS regulations.

  • @dog-loverjohn1379
    @dog-loverjohn1379 Місяць тому

    Desperately disappointing turn of events. Perhaps sooner rather than later our regulators will see the light. Thanks as ever, Steven, for your excellent report. We'd be lost without you!

    • @beehappy7797
      @beehappy7797 17 днів тому

      You are lost listening to this self-centered jerk who pretends to know things.

  • @marctenhove874
    @marctenhove874 Місяць тому

    So, FSD with a lot of limitations that might be impossible to implement in FSD which has been trained by AI. EU = failed.

  • @MercedesSLSFan
    @MercedesSLSFan Місяць тому

    Comparing the taycan to a tesla should be a crime, it is an insult to porsche

  • @MooseOnEarth
    @MooseOnEarth Місяць тому

    This is not really smart charging, but standard AC charging with simple communication via PWM. Actual smart charging is in ISO 15118, which can also be used over AC. It is a much more sophisticated protocol.

  • @tjsskier
    @tjsskier Місяць тому

    Is this the same procedure with an LFP battery?

  • @Warekiwi
    @Warekiwi Місяць тому

    Excellent video and confirms my experiences. I have a 2022 MYLR with fsd capability and have driven all over the UK, Europe and Scandinavia. Sadly as you observe NOAP is far less useful than it was 2 years ago!

  • @Pietkien
    @Pietkien Місяць тому

    To bad Europe is not allowing FSD /autopilot.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters Місяць тому

      The UNECE is not allowing it. EU is only a small part of that WP29 agreement

  • @PaulVanWho
    @PaulVanWho Місяць тому

    5 damn years of this. Damn the Germans.

  • @MrSeamusMurray
    @MrSeamusMurray 2 місяці тому

    Thank you very much for the update and the good news regarding the new draft. Steven as we would say here in Dublin Ireland “you're some man for one man” :) Regards Séamus

  • @danpaguba
    @danpaguba 2 місяці тому

    A drawing would have been useful

  • @OnTVaustralia
    @OnTVaustralia 2 місяці тому

    Out of curiosity, is there any bemefit to pre-condition the battery when charging at 11kw? I know its typically recommended for DC fast charging and not mentioned for fast AC charging.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      Not at all. AC charging doesn’t produce any significant heat like fast charging does

  • @asadpiriyev
    @asadpiriyev 2 місяці тому

    It shows how unoractical this steer in such kind of situations. Circle steerin is better

  • @bobbybishop5662
    @bobbybishop5662 2 місяці тому

    At least you don't have to worry about it killing you.

  • @RainiervanSlingerlandt
    @RainiervanSlingerlandt 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for summarizing all the important parts. Personally, I can’t wait for the day that they remove the steering wheel, the gas panel, and the brakes from the cars. It will reduce the number of accidents enormously. Just imagine that all grandpa’s who really shouldn’t be driving anymore and all young people that think that they can make that corner and all people that are just too tired or to drunk or to high, they can all be driven home safely without accidentally killing someone else. This technology is really the best thing that can happen to humanity. I was just reading up on Airbags, patent in 1968 first experimental fleet in 1973. It took up till the 1990’s before airbags found their way into most cars. Technology is fast Politics are not.

  • @RainiervanSlingerlandt
    @RainiervanSlingerlandt 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video, I am in doubt about buying a Tesla with auto pilot (FSD) but I live in The Netherlands. For me the auto pilot would be the functionality that would make me buy a Tesla. But if it doesn't give me any improvements over the normal cars 'Mercedes, Volkswagen, Ford' then well.... I do hope that you can do another video when the newer version is released in Europe.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      Sure will. And having driven a few other systems (not yet Mercedes L3) I must say that overall Tesla is still better in the sense that it is more smooth. I use my EAP every single day

  • @GoncaloRijo
    @GoncaloRijo 2 місяці тому

    Such a big roller-coaster...

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671 2 місяці тому

    In Europe you have to prove, that your app is working.

  • @moocorp4574
    @moocorp4574 2 місяці тому

    I hate the EU

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      You should hate the UNECE instead, because this has nothing to do with the EU.

    • @moocorp4574
      @moocorp4574 2 місяці тому

      @@StevenPeeters it’s the EU who decides this, not the UNECE. There are two authorities in the EU for laws, national parliaments and the European Parliament. I have contacted several parties in Sweden and asked for their opinions and I will vote for the party which works the hardest to get FSD legal

    • @moocorp4574
      @moocorp4574 2 місяці тому

      @@StevenPeeters also just generally, if you believe it’s some UN bureaucrats fault that we don’t have FSD in Europe you’re widely misinformed in my view. The USA is also a member of the United Nations and it’s the decision of the parliaments in Europe, including national ones, to decide to take them seriously.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      @@moocorp4574 no, it is the unece WP29 that votes on this. This is worldwide

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      @@moocorp4574 ot is you who is misinformed. WP29 is an agreement signed by about 60 countries. US did not sign this agreement, so they are not bound by it. I’ve explained this many times in my regulations videos. I suggest you watch them and learn the proper impact of this

  • @ngkougkousis
    @ngkougkousis 2 місяці тому

    Comparing Tesla Model S Plaid with track pack with Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach is like comparing a VW GTi "edition” with a Renault Megane RS Trophy. They are completely different cars which serve different purposes. Taycan Turbo S would be a more fair comparison to the plaid. Would be curious to see how that would be around the ring.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      Already did that: ua-cam.com/video/GBAsXIcQLlA/v-deo.html

  • @HansKruse
    @HansKruse 2 місяці тому

    Maybe things will change when FSD works autonomous in NA.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      That will be many more years before that happens

  • @SimonJentzschX7
    @SimonJentzschX7 2 місяці тому

    thanks for the (even thjough a bit disapointing) update. If I understand it correctly those regulations are for assistance systems (Level 2) and as long as FSD is just a Level 2 System, Tesla would have to apply them. If FSD would not be supervised anymore, but Level 3 or more ( like the robotaxi), those barriers for EU regulations would be different. Is this right? So maybe we in the EU just need to wait until FSD reaches this level?

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      That is correct. But the Tesla become fully liable for thecsystem and its behsviour. A step they are clearly not willing to take.

    • @SimonJentzschX7
      @SimonJentzschX7 2 місяці тому

      @@StevenPeeters thanks. I would be more than happy with Level 3 and taking the full resposnsibility. My understanding is that level 4 would require the tesla become liable for its behavior. On the other hand, if tesla is introdcuing their plans for the robotaxi, than they would have to introduce a level 4 or even 5 and take the liaability anyway.

    • @StevenPeeters
      @StevenPeeters 2 місяці тому

      @@SimonJentzschX7 L3 also requires Tesla to take liability as you are allowed to be on your phone or laptop behind the wheel when in L3

  • @theon2k
    @theon2k 2 місяці тому

    Tesla, just put an "approve" button under the driver's seat